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[2013.07.26] OVH SERVER 購買需知 (I can't provide the servers kimsufi are intended for the moment for Europ) [Copy URL]

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Post time 2013-4-9 03:11:05 |Show all posts
簡單說明一下,目前ovh.com的所有系列產品我都有取得購買的權限(參考下圖),付款方式會藉由信用卡/paypal付款租用主機


一但請我幫忙代購順利的話上(如果OVH流程一切順利)最遲半天內就能取得主機,因為上班時間不固定,如果要我幫忙安裝rtorrent+rutorrent用戶端時間會拖比較久,我一天也無法處理太多件
取得主機後我不會像許多國內外的reseller一樣將主機所有權限鎖在我自己的帳號下,我會在購買主機的同時將technical contact轉移到購買者的ovh manager帳號下面
所以一但取得主機後,可以自行安裝系統或是open ticket和ovh官方請求server端技術支援
因此我安裝完客戶端後因為下訂者安裝其他服務與http server做衝突,我不會幫忙做linux(或其他作業系統)的技術支援
且主機轉移後若自行重新安裝系統後我不也不再支援重新安裝客戶端
主機使用過程若有任何問題請自行open ticket連繫ovh的技術人員幫忙解決,相對於很多歐洲的主機商,ovh的服務是真的很好請多利用
  1. ovh manager v3 --> contact our support --> contact a technical advisor (參考下圖)
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最後,請理解我主要是以代購者的身份幫忙大家,客戶端算是額外的售後服務,我並沒有太多時間maintain有關linux使用的問題,
網路上可以google到許多linux server相關的討論與教學文章請自行研究

目前避免程序上的混亂,ovh商品的費用與代購用的手續費加總統一以官方售價(含TVA商品增值稅)+3€(每個月)無條件進入計算,並且收款一律使用paypal歐元收款
我將會用你匯給我的餘額直接用paypal付款給ovh官方,用paypal匯率會比較高而且收款方會被官方收取過路費這點是比較討厭的
但對買家的好處是,如果有任何不滿意的地方可以用paypal dispute直接投訴我(當然要提供直接證據)
大原則基本上就只有這樣,但是有一些細節部分希望購買的朋友參考下面的範例做些瞭解

ovh.com-SP16G plan為例

藍色方框的部分就是ovh幫購買者計算的(實體主機+TVA)費用



但是延伸到這張結帳單可以看到客製化的部分還會有很多
像是上方的方框有加上windows server 2008 R2 web的license授權就要多15歐元
(btw,據說可以使用自己購買的的license key,這樣就不用向官方買序號了,但是根據leaseweb提供的消息
一但被M$發現使用非法序號,ISP會被罰錢,所以很多ISP商(像是leaseweb)堅持要使用SPLA的序號
因此如果自己用vKVM或是其他方式變更序號請務必注意序號的合法性,要不然被抓到違反使用規範主機會被收回,更糟的情況reseller也會被連累)


總結到最下方會有地二個藍色方框,官方會告知TVA的計算方式約略是總商品售價*1.196=最終售價
所以(server月租49.99€+作業系統license月付15€)*1.196~77.73€+3€無條件進入=81€將是我所收取的費用
有用過paypal的朋友應該都知道收款方會被paypal課稅而且匯款越多課越多但是避免麻煩,目前政策是不管你買什麼商品我都只收3€
比較高端的Server用起來問題會比較少,相對的也比較不需要麻煩我一一回答破爛機器造成的問題,所以算是我鼓勵大家買好一點的主機玩PT或是架論壇好了

以上應該已經把大概狀況都說得很請很清楚了,還有什麼問題就留言,我統一整理成FAQ也方便減少你我問來問去回答來回答去所浪費的時間

代購買流程:

  • 提出你所想要買的ovh主機(ex:上圖中的SP 16G)
  • default 安裝 ubuntu desktop 12.04 64位元 +x2go,用戶可以在自己的ovh manager重新安裝其他系統
  • 說明是否需要安裝rtorrent+rutorrent客戶端(參考下面FAQ)(一但需要安裝,作業系統綁定上述的default系統安裝)
  • 請提供你所要的rutorrent登入帳號密碼給我(不需我幫忙安裝用戶端就請跳過此選項)
  • 提供你的NIC(參考下面FAQ)
  • 禁止公網下載BT和ED是否同意(不小心吃到DMCA大家都不用玩了)(FAQ有提供ovh官方說明的server使用規範pdf檔下載)
  • 購買時間(1個月/3個月/半年/一年 皆可)
  • 額外需要特別說明的事情都可以補充
  • 最後請自行計算所需金額
以上資料彙總後寄信到我的mail:isnowcloud@live.com
一但我確認後會丟paypal request到你的mail請求付款,之後就是我的事情了
以上是代購流程

代付款流程:
若是手邊已經有你的server也具有billing contact,我可以幫忙代付款,金額一樣是上面所述的計算方式
  • 提供你的NIC(參考下面FAQ)
  • 請自行計算所需金額

資料彙總後寄信到我的mail: 暫略
一但我確認後會丟request到你的mail請求付款,並提供我的NIC
且必須先轉移billing contact給我(參考下面FAQ)我才幫忙續費,當然付款完之後我會再把權限轉移還給你,請不用擔心

以上是代付款流程
--------------------------------------------------FAQ--------------------------------------------------
Q : 我想買無限流量的獨立主機
A : kimsufi(第一張圖左上角)系列不用想了,全都鎖網外5TB流量,超過5TB後頻寬會從100Mb/s down到10Mb/s
想要無限流量方案請找SP16G以上的方案,但是ovh官方的政策變來變去,所以說具體請直接上官網看個者機的spec,要知道google翻譯很好用
資訊更新(2013.07.26)....
ovh更新kimsufi的方案,全方案都又開放無限對外流量了,OVH常常變更政策,要搶要快
資訊更新(2013.07.26)....
kimsufi級的server全面停止代購(非歐盟居民近只購買),雖然很可惜,請放棄他買其他的server吧!!

Q : 我可以選擇datacenter嗎
A : 因為法律上的問題北美BHS的服務器不能幫忙選購,歐洲的主機除了kimsufi外可以選擇,但是都已經是限定法國了,選擇哪邊都差不多,路由可能會是比較大的問題
如果購買主機後決的速度不好影響很大,可以請ovh幫忙測試路由

Q:主機的使用規範
A:基本上你的主機做什麼官方都不會知道,但是一但被檢舉違反使用規範則會被勒令停止主機的使用權,所以說不要作違規的事情!!
詳情可以參考這份英文說明,我有空會再把一些重要的條款拿出來說明,至少大家玩PT是ok的

Q : 幫忙安裝的BT用戶端只有rtorrent+rutorrent可用嗎?
A : 目前rtorrent+rutorrent還是最穩定&最強&最推薦的組合
客戶端安裝的部分rtorrent會採用ubuntu 套件庫最後的穩定版
rutorrent會採用官方release最新版,外掛我會幫忙額外再加上irssi auto download和file manager 兩個plugin,這樣就很完整了
當然linux還有其他客戶端可以選擇像是wtorrent 、deluge或是transmission可以安裝,但是避免把事情複雜化我不提供安裝服務
若是堅持要用其他用戶端,這不會是免費的(怕了吧

Q : 不會使用rtorrent
A : 用FTP上傳種子到Watch dir,rtorrent會自動下載資料到Downloads,資料最後用FTP撈回來就是這麼簡單
搭配web ui(像是rutorrent)可以處理更多更多事情

Q : 不會使用rutorrent
A : 基本和utorrent是一樣的,三點簡單說明
  • rss過濾方式和utorrent不同,舉例/(NGB)|(TTG)|(wiki)/i可以抓三種關鍵字檔名的檔案,filter設好後用左下腳的?來測試,其餘應用請自行研究
  • irssi auto download我有加簡介(下面有圖片範例應該看得懂吧)了,其他請自己google
  • file manager很簡單自行研究,可以create new torrent喔,我目前路徑一律鎖在/home/(login帳號)/

Q : rutorrent好像支援多人共用
A : 暫時不提供這項服務,瑣碎的設定太多,如果真的有需要再連繫我吧,當然這個也不會是...

Q : NIC是什麼
A : 登入ovh manager v3後右上角會有私人的NIC資訊
ID Number:  89655887
Nic Handle:  TK6698-OVH
有NIC後我才能幫忙轉移服務給你或是你才能轉移權限給我

Q : 如何轉移NIC
A : 參考這篇文章可以對contacts有些瞭解
轉移方式Login ovh manager v3 -> 點Server(左上角) -> 點Contacts(右下角)

Q : 如何登入遠端桌面
A : 一律使用x2go client登入,設定參考這篇教學

Q : rutorrent抓不到rtorrent
A : 硬體比較差的情況rtorrent會崩潰,這個時候只要重啟rtorrent就可以了
概念-新增screen再開啟rtorrent
參考步驟-
  • putty登入帳號(你rutorrent login帳密)
  • screen -r autodl
  • crtl+a  再點 (<-鍵)
  • 如果沒有rtorrent就是rtorrent崩潰了(理論上都會沒有)
  • Crtl+a Ctrl+d
  • screen -S rt
  • rtorrent
  • Crtl+a 再點 Ctrl+d
  • 繼續使用 rutorrent
或是重啟initial script-
  • screen -r autodl
  • Ctrl+a 再點 Shift+K && (yes)
  • 執行 sudo /etc/init.d/autodl_你的rutorrent帳號 restart
要不然重啟系統也行,方法百百種,要試都可以用(我好像說太多廢話了)

Q : 我沒有paypal怎麼辦
A : 大家會花錢玩PT架論壇的人應該多半都是上班族了,申請張VISA/MASTER信用卡+申請個paypal帳號綁定信用卡付款應該很簡單吧
很多國際級的付款都必須用到paypal/webmoney...ooxx,paypal是最普遍的
如果是認識的朋友可以先代付一個月主機的錢,這段時間趕快去把信用卡和paypal帳號搞定吧

Q : 你發問
A : 我看心情回答
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當然最好告訴我你的id是什麼我好稱呼...以上







╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭  Post time 2013-4-9 03:19:35
goddesschi兄您好,
我的id是tribal,
使用的plan是KS2G,
主要使用的用途是刷PT流量,
目前遇到的問題是HDW/ CHD/ OPEN CD在刷流量都還蠻OK的!
但是想要刷TTG卻一直出現錯誤,
錯誤訊息如下截圖,
我試過用RSS/ 直接上傳種子/ 直接填入種子網址等方式都會是一樣紅種.....
是否有什麼地方是設要額外設定才行呢?
謝謝!!

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你的圖片有你私人的passkey我先拿掉了 by夢

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╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭  Post time 2013-4-9 03:19:55
(tribal)PS一下…
小弟單純就是下載完看沒有上傳流量就砍了.....
真正有需要的資源會用家裡的NAS下載,
所以沒有需要什麼額外的服務^^
也沒有自己再多安裝什麼東西@@

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Post time 2013-4-9 03:22:22 |Show all posts
hi tribal兄
我到處爬文的結果,我認為問題不是rtorent的bug就是ttg把client封掉了
我決定upgrade rtorrent到最新版(unstable version)
1-5我要忙得事情頗多,果可以的話,這週假日我幫你重灌系統並且吧rtorrent upgrade! 可以嗎?

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╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭  Post time 2013-4-9 09:58:32
重灌OK的~
機器上的資料沒有需要備份的~
我有需要的都會用我的NAS下載,
這台就單純拿來刷刷上傳量用的^^

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